Wed 30 Aug 2006
Severus and Lily
Posted by Horcrux Citizen under Characters, Lily, Snape
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I’ve had my own thoughts about Snape and Lily but I think Duckula on myspace goes farthest in explaining the Snape/Lily connection. I posted this:
We saw, in the pensieve Lily and Snape in their 5th year. Harry hears from Sirius and Lupin that Lily and James didn’t get together till their 7th year, although James already had a crush on her. I bet that the two best potions students – Snape and Lily were friends in their 6th year and Snape fell in love with her, and his abiding hatred of James is due, more than anything else, to his secret love of Lily.
and Duckula went much further (and it is better thought out too) with this:
I TOTALLY think Snape had a crush on Lily secretly, and that Snape considered her a good friend. I think he often confided in her and talked to her, and she had a way of helping his low self-esteem and making him feel better about himself. We know she was very kind and had a way of making somebody see somebody’s inner beauty, even if they didn’t see it themselves. He really admired her and appreciated her. This is what makes “Snape’s Worst Memory” so important- Snape was used to being bullied by James and Sirius, so why would this particular day be his worst memory? But notice that Lily suddenly came into play, and also that Snape had never once mentioned Harry’s mother! It wasn’t so much that Snape was humiliated in front of Lily nearly as much as the single important fact that he blatently insulted and degraded her- his stubborn Slytherin pride, which had just flared up, maybe even against his will. And notice how she reacted, angry, shocked even. Snape knew that he just had lost the best friend he ever had, and he always hated himself for that… and he also blamed it on James, which would explain why he hates Harry so much. When he looks at him, he sees the woman he lost- both in friendship and in death- and James, who he feels forced him to blurt out such a horrible thing to her, thus causing her to turn away from him, AND who married Lily… who stole him away from her like everything else, his ultimate victory over Snape, and thus deprived him of any chance he would have of redeeming himself in her eyes.I think it was when Snape found out that the two were engaged (I think they got engaged while in their 7th year, probably towards the end, so it was MAJOR talk around the school, seeing as how they were both popular), and it was that which ultimately inspired Snape to turn over to the Dark Side. He know he had a shitty home-life, a shitty school-life (save for Lily), and so this was the straw that just broke the camel’s back. With Lily out of his life, he felt had nothing else to live for, nothing to lose… so he joined the Dark Lord mainly to gain a feeling of belonging, a feeling of acceptance, which would become the other second biggest mistake of his life… because it was on his information as well as Peter’s) that caused the Potters to die. He not only blamed Lily’s death on himself, but on James (because, like I said, it was ultimately his anger and hatred for James taking Lily away from him that caused him to turn to Voldemort, which he ultimately took out on Harry. AND FURTHERMORE, I think another HUGE reason he hates Harry so much is because he knew that Lily could have died if it hadn’t of been for Harry. (I think Snape had a direct role, somehow, in the fact that Voldemort was willing to spare her). Snape probably thought “It should have been her who lived, why couldn’t it have been you who died? She could have lived if it hadn’t have been for you!”But why wasn’t Snape’s worst memory the moment he found out that James are Lily were getting married, or more significantly, when he found oit that Lily was dead? Because that fateful day by the lake was how it all started. It was the day when Lily lost every bit of respect she ever had for Snape. If it hadn’t have been for Snape (and James), he and Lily would never have had a falling-out. They might have had a chance together, seriously, and it might have been them who got married, and Voldemort would never have came hunting her.

Gem on myspace wrote this reply in a longish Snape/Lily thread – I think she makes good points and so do other folks in the thread (more posted below).
I always thought Snape had a real Heafcliff thing going on for Lily. It would explain why Dumbledore was so sure that Snape repented. Think about it:
- Snape, brooding on the fact that the girl he loves has just married his enemy, joins the Death Eaters.
- Snape overhears the prophecy and passes on what little he heard to Voldemort.
- Voldemort decides the child it refers to is Harry; Lily’s son.
- Snape returns to Dumbledore and confesses all to try and save Lily.
More than that I think that a good part of Snape’s hatred for Harry has to do with the fact that Lily died for him. I don’t doubt that it has something to do with him being James’ son aswell, but togeather with the fact that Lily sacrificed herself for Harry would make a man like Snape dispise him.
I’m undecided weather Lily actually ever returned the same amount of affection to him, or weather he latched onto her just because she was actually nice to him (something I think we can safely assume was a rarity it Snape’s life) – guess I’ll have to wait for book 7 to find out.
emily mentioned Snape’s Jealousy:
well i agree that snape and narcissa wouldn’t go together, and that snape like lily but not the other way around, bcuz like they said earlier, he callled her names to hide the fact he was in luv with her, and jealousy of a luv always hurts a person more then other stuff one can be jealous for, so thats where his real hatred for james came in im most of it. and i think that might be part of the reason dumbledore trusts snape so much, bcuz he really was truely sry bout wut happened to lily and it was his fualt she got marked for death, when he learned it was her that was marked for death he joined the other side….thats my opinion neway
I just wanted to preserve these comments…
HC
Many disagreements with my theories this week. Oh well, no harm in prophesying about upcoming fiction =)
Alexander on Google Groups writes the following critique. (oops, make that Alexandra)
It *is* a wonderfully thought out theory.
It almost got me convinced, back there, but I guess I stopped believing
in Snape\’s crush on Lily too long ago to go back to it now.
I might have believed it some books ago, but Snape\’s grown so much as a
character that the general theory of the crush would be a huge
drawback: *this* wording of the theory, however, makes it sound a lot
more plausible!
My respect to the author.
But I\’ll post my two cents against the theory anyway:
1) after HBP every S/L crush theory has as a starting point the fact
that they were both very good Potions students. Personally, I don\’t see
the fact as a plus: Snape is, and probably was also back in the time,
extremely proud and ambitious (a trait he shares with Tom M. Riddle)
and I don\’t think that he would be positively impressed by a Gryffindor
mudblood who took the mic and all the attention away from him -
Slughorn never says that Snape was good in Potions: at the time he was
totally taken in with Lily, maybe he never even noticed Snape, albeit
his talent.
2) a convincing part of the theory involves the Dark Lord wishing to
spare Lily. Unfortunately, it\’s hard for me to imagine Lord Voldemort
following a young DE\’s romantic desires and sparing his high school
crush just because he asked politely. Maybe Snape was very good in
convincing him with other reasons, but I doubt it.
It’s actually Alexandra… but it’s ok!!
I like this blog… I think I’ll have a look around…
ok how about this:
Lily was part of the HBP? Snape was..but so was lily? huh,huh? like it?
Hermy said that the book had girly handwriting
And Jo said that we will find out a BIG thing about Lily in Bk. 7 and I believe it has something to do w/ snape.
1 more thing. Remember “that awful boy” Petunia talked about.. First glance you’d think that it was James but… What if it was Snape? He seems to me more under the category of “awful” *shrug* I dunno…
… another thing… When asked if snape had a love life she seemed really surprised and said ‘i’m surprised you asked that and ul find out why in Bk.7′ (paraphrasing) I think this has more Lily involvement.
Thanks for listening
Those are other good points!!
I especially like the “awful boy” thing – even though an obvious objection would be that it would be very easy for Petunia to find James awful, as he’s a wizard…
yes, thanks for the complement. I agree. But, (and im sure you’d agree with this) has J.K. Rowling EVER made things as simple as they seem? (except for possibly the Mark Evans Case
) Harry thought for sure that it was his dad. He wasn’t even open to the possibility that it would be anyone else.
But another thing: (this is totally off-topic) I googled Harry potter and I saw the news results labeled: “Harry Potter:fraud” I followed the link and saw this JUNK: http://www.slate.com/id/2150585/... I thought about how dmb this writer is. Well, you will understand if you read this article. BTW I submitted a comment name’s boom-bam. Let me tell you I didn’t get close to expressing the revulsion I had to whomever wrote that article.
NEVER!! That’s why I like the “awful boy” bit so much… Actually, I also happen to believe that Petunia would probably consider the scarce use of shampoo worse than being a wizard: hence, Snape is awfull-er than James. =)
About the Slate article: I actually found it pretty amusing. :p The introductory lines make it clear that the column’s point is to dissect people, fictional characters and so on, with no other particular intent… I was prepared when I read it and can actually say that it’s one of the best anti-Harry article I’ve encountered: especially as it’s not really anti-Harry. It’s just a provocation.
And let’s admit it: can we really say Harry is *not* lucky? That if it hadn’t been for his friends or Dumbledore and other adults he would have made it alive to the seventh book? Of course, the true interpretation of Harry’s character is masterfully given by BassSinger (http://www.slate.com/?id=3936&m=18313376), but you can’t blame the author of the article for chosing precisely that button to press.
People (especially uninformed people) say such nasty things about the Potter books and J.K. herself, this was actually refreshing!!
[sorry about the digression]
snape will be the one to kill voldemort.
he is the only one talented enough to do it.
he hates voldemort for killing lilly.
the prophecy does not actually state that it is harry who will kill voldemort, just that harry will not rest until voldemort is dead.
once harry turns 17 a number of enchantments on harry will be no more. my guess is voldemort and harry will battle and voldemort’s skill will finally overcome remains of harry’s luck.
as voldemort is about to do harry in, snape will step in and kill voldemort, almost certainly dying in the attempt.
Good theories but just 1 thing snape, slytherin…lily, gryffindor isn’t it known that slytherins and gryffindors hate each other?
however lily being the kind witch she is probably wouldnt have minded the slytherins if they didnt say anything to her. Good theories though well thought out.
“Either must die at the hand of the other, for neither can live while the other survives.”
What does that mean?…Oh…I get it! The prophecy was meant for snape/ Voldemort. Thats why he heard it!!!(yes, I AM being sarcastic)
In conclusion…”ch” you have officially been owned
*pushes easy button w/ much satisfaction*
John, your thinking it too linear. It’s like DD kept saying don’t put too much into the prophecy. In fact the only concrete fact that the prophecy offers is the birthday of a person who will play a big role in dark lord’s undoing. It doesn’t even give a year though we can speculate that it meant this coming year which would make it Harry, otherwise could be a bunch of people. Dark lord can also refer to whomever, perhaps even Snape for all we know. Although it is fairly safe to assume it means V.
The point I am trying to make is interpretation of a prophecy can often be harder than making one. This prophecy is vague enough to pin Neville vs Snape in the end. haha! That would be so funny!
Have you guys read the Machiavelli’s Half Blood Prince Essay on Mugglenet:
http://www.mugglenet.com/editorials/editorials/edit-texan01.shtml
and the follow on essay at:
http://www.mugglenet.com/editorials/editorials/edit-mwalker01.shtml
I think they fit with the notion I sometimes have of Snape as only working for himself.
Well this has been on my mind for some time as well. What if V is more like a front for the real Dark Lord. In that case who is the real Dark Lord?
Snape is perhaps the prime suspect in this. He is highly talented, inventing his own spells at school age and saving DD’s life. And yes he is in a position to manipulate DD vs V.
Slughorn is another possibility. For a long time, he’s made it his business to pull the strings from behind the curtains and he is also a highly capable wizzard.
Also perhaps Snape learned this concept from Slughorn.
However, as I reflect on these thoughts, this scheme appears overplayed. There have been indications that he fears V. He could have also let DD just die near the beggining of book 6. DD was probably extremely weak when he came to Snape with the ring. Snape could have finished him off right there and fled instead of end of book 6. This and some other happenings indicate to me that Snape was loyal to DD and acted on DD’s orders at the end of book 6.
I do believe that there is a strong tie between Snape, Lily, Harry. This will resolve itself in book 7 and I do think that Snape will play a huge role in killing V and quite possibly kill him with Harry’s helping hand.
“The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches…born to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies…and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will have power the Dark Lord knows not…and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives…the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh month dies…”
We know- It’s Harry who is “the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord ”
His Parents thrice defied Voldemort (when DID they defy Voldemort…let the speculation begin)
HE NEEDS TO KILL VOLDEMORT “Either must die at the hand of the other, for neither can live while the other survives” This means he must Kill Voldemort. Dubledore said it, menaing Joe has said it.
It was Voldemort’s choice of who to make the Chosen one. He chose Harry because he believed that he could relate more to the half-blood moreso than the pure-blood. (it’s on Joe’s site somewhere…maybe her FAQ’s section)
Meh. I’m too tired to finish maybe tomorrow…
I have another thing about Lily/Snape. It has alot to do with Snape being innocent.
When Harry asks DD: are you SURE you’re right about snape [speaking about his loyalty]. He seems to be “deciding something” and says ‘I am sure’. I believe he was deciding to tell him whether Snape loved lily or not.
Snape told DD that he loved Lily, that is why he was allowed to stay in DD’s trust. I don’t think there is any doubt about it… What do you think?
Thanks for listening.
part 2: Yes, Snape did love Lily. Everything you said and more.
part 1: No. Like I said interpretation of a prophecy is a very tricky business.
“The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches…”
This really does not give any concrete info.
Who is the Dark Lord? Doesn’t have to be V., could easily be Snape or someone else.
Approaches? About to be born? About to graduate? Or perhaps about to switch sides from V to DD(Snape)?
“born to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies…”
Again no real data. Since we dont know for certain who Dark Lord is… And trice defied him just means there were 3 disagreements between the parents and the Dark Lord. Really, really common. I mean since childhood people disagree about things. There are 3 disagreements between most adults that have met.
“and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal,”
Could refer to Harry and V. right? Yes but could also easily refer to Harry and Snape. In a matter of speaking Snape marked Harry as equal with HBP potions book. Slughorn stated exactly that at the party. Could be V. and Snape; Snape wears DE symbol on his arm and possibly more. Could also be Snape vs Neville which I find commical.
“but he will have power the Dark Lord knows not…”
Again no info on who these 2 people are.
” and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives…”
This is an intresting one. It certainly suggest that one must kill the other. But first off we don’t know who these 2 people are. And second the phrasing is such that it can be speculated that “the other” doesn’t neccessarily mean either one of them. Could be a 3rd person. In other words Snape(?) may have a choice to kill Harry or V. In this wording neither Harry, nor Voldemort(if we assume it is them) can live while the other(Snape?) survives. Intrestingly, this is exactly what Snape has been doing all these years – surviving.
“the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh month dies…”
Well, this is the only piece of actual info that we get. Whoever kills “the Dark Lord” is born at the end of July. That covers about 4% of the population.
Anyway, I am not saying this is not about Harry and Voldemort. I am saying it could be about other people. Also the phrasing of “the other” clause can be interpreted differently even if the main players are H and V.
We will not know for certain what the prophecy meant until practically the very end.
Naming the Two Players
First, we have a Chosen One. It is FACT that it is Harry as Jo has said it many, many times. According to the Harry Potter Lexicon Snape’s birthday is January 9, clearly NOT the Chosen One, as he is not “born as the seventh month dies.”
Next, we have a more difficult one to place, the Dark Lord.
Jo has said:
“In effect, the prophecy gave Voldemort the choice of two candidates for his possible nemesis. In choosing which boy to murder, he was also (without realising it) choosing which boy to anoint as the Chosen One – to give him tools no other wizard possessed – the scar and the ability it conferred, a magical window into Voldemort’s mind.”
We gather from this that Voldemort had the power as to choose the Chosen One. Correct? IF he does then wouldn’t he be listed as the Dark Lord, mentioned to “mark him [the Chosen One] as his equal”.
Have I listed the Chosen One and Dark Lord clearly enough NOW?! =)
Neville
We know Neville is NOT the boy mentioned in the prophecy. He fits ALL the standards of the prophecy and his life has (before Book One) been affected as much as (if not more so) than Harry’s. But there is one thing missing which makes Harry a more valid choice of the prophecy. “Harry’s survival has not depended wholly or even mainly upon his scar,” JKR commented on Neville on her site. It is being able to face fears. He does not have the “macho” kind of courage compared to Harry.
Anything else? Did I miss something?
P.S. Sorry for being a little late I have been a little busy.
Thanks for listening.
Hey, sometimes it is helpful for me to step back and think not – why does the story need it this way – but instead think – why does JK need it this way. JK needs for us to accept some things she says (through her characters) about prophecies.
1) DD tells us they are not reliable as predictors of the future
2) DD shows us this particular prophecy is driving LVs behavior – not the future – his actions in response to this perceived threat.
3) DD got HP to accept that since the prophesy is driving LVs behavior, He, HP, must fight LV because if he does not force the issue, LV will track him down to the ends of the earth.
Now I just read a little blurb that has me all off on another theory. I’m even more predictable than LV. This one regards the Tarot card Trelawney mentions in the sixth book – the lightning struck tower. I hope to post it later today.
I really appreciate the effort in this theory. some of the other comments are rather “out there”.
I really like finding theories that actually have merit and fact in their opinion.
I believe that Severus loved Lily and was a friend to her in thier 5th year . Why would this girl this ” mudblood” run to the aid of a well known hater of her kind? And if she did why would it surprise her that he said something mean about her ? Simple answer it wouldn’t.
But if he was a friend to her , if in secret , it would enrage her that her friend was bullied and the slur would hurt and surprise her alot .
Further why would Lord Voldomor try not to kill her ? It wasn’t the protection .. he didn’t know about that . It was Severus … he told him that she didn’t need to die . He wanted Lily , Severus did, and with out Harry and James she would be open to him again . Perhaps they both couold have , in his mind, worked at Hogwarts and rekindled thier friendship that way .
It’s obvious as to why Lily would run to the aid of someone, even if he/she was a “well known hater of her kind”.
It’s because Lily had love. That is why Harry survived Voldemort in Godric’s Hollow, and why I believe he will survive him again.
I think that they were friends after Hogwarts, and Snape resented Lily for that. He loved Lily, but, he couldn’t have her, so he would get her on his good-side and maybe kill James, or just win her over.
This makes sense, because, Petunia would have overheard Snape and Lily’s conversation about dementors.
(there is no doubt that it wasn’t Snape. Jo has said it wasn’t James…the only other reasonable explanation is Snape)
I think this is so obvious by now, I can’t believe that people are still agrguing against it.
Well JK was asked If Snape had a crush on Lily.
She said that it was a popular question.
Then she was asked If Lupin had a crush on Lily and she decided to talk about that and skillfully misdirected the Snape/Lily questions.
A possible answer for why Voldermort wanted to spear Lily is because Severus; A very talanted wizard would have been in his debt.
All the posssible reasons for why Snape never ever talks about Lily, even when the opportunity presents itself can only make sense if they lead to him being in love with Lily.
But there is something interesting to note: Jk said that Severus has been loved before: From the memory that Harry sees, his parents aren’t very loving.
So who is it. It could be Lily or maybe even Narcissa. But I doubt it is Narcissa because his relationship with Lucius would suggest otherwise.
I know people tend to believe that Lily would not develop romantic feelings for Snape but at the same time who would have thought that Hermione would develop romantic feelings for a boy who was not described as hansome and nor was he smart but he did have something she liked about him. SOmetimes that’s enough. Look at Severus: he was smart, the only person who called him ugly was James, so he couldn’t have been that ugly right? It’s not difficult to imagine that Lily would want to save Severus from himself. How many girls fall for bad boys in hope of saving them. Harry could have gotten his hero complex from her.
Well I can’t be certain that she loved him back but I will give my right arm if Severus was not in love with her.
look stop being stupid! ok snape and lily are a maybe. But snape is not the frickin chosen one. The dark lord- the prson ruling over all the dark and evil things that exist!!! uh let me think on that one maybe VOLDEMORT!!! i recon snape is odviously gonna switch sides and will did at the end. BUT yes there is a but he will not kill voldemort
How the heck can he. Dumbledore has been giving harry all the lessons on voldemort yeah thats right he hasnt been teaching snape!
Harry has to destroy the horecuxes before killing voldemort
Dumbledore had a long chat with harry in book 6 about how harry has love and this is the power harry will use against V/
Harry kills voldemort
Snape dies to voldemort
(continued)
Voldemort chose harry s the chosen one. It could have been him or nevile as dumbledore stated. But thats right voldemort chose >>>harry>>not snape
I think it’s truly possible that Snape cared for Lily. I also think that James ‘hate’ for Snape has to do with Lily’s display of affection for Snape, whether that be by keeping his company or being study mates. She may bave been horrified by Snapes use of Mudblood because he’s one also, so it’s really just a stupid ugly thing to say. Also Snape says something about James using his spells against him *just as Harry does” something about this is bothersome.
I also wonder what made Sirius pull away from his family? And yes I know they’re vile. But James and Sirius were more alike than the others, both from money and blood. Maybe the one thing they all had in common was their feelings for Lily? (and isn’t she a redhead…?)
I really do wonder how Wormtail could have gotten into the MM group. THey were all intelligent, brave, and well noble (if for lack of a better word). He does not fit and it makes me wonder (I know it’s a STRETCH) if Snape was part of the group at one point or another.
ALSO for all of those who say Slythern and Griffindor always hate one another do note that in the begining they were the BEST of friends (she wrote it for a reason, don’t ya think?)
Like the idea that Snape hates Harry because he’s the reason Lily died.
Voldemort tells Lily she didn’t have to die. Why? I believe he’d agreed, as a favor to Snape, to spare her life.
Also, not that I believe this interpretation, but the prophecy says, “The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches…” Well, literally, when Trelawney made her prediction, wasn’t Snape approaching? He did, after all, overhear. Don’t see how that squares with the end of the July stuff, though, until Snape’s “reborn” in some sense. A stretch.
Here’s another theory: That Snape, remorseful about revealing the prophecy to Voldemort, works with Lily and Slughorn to concoct a way to counter the Killing Curse. In Book 7, I expect Snape, the crafty half-blood Prince, will help Harry devise a way to neutralize Harry’s horcrux/scar. I spell it out on my blog, stealmyideasplease.com. It’s inspired, of course, by lots of good ideas I’ve found in the books and online.
In regards to the prophacy, it CLEARLY says (?) Harry Potter!!! There is a question mark!!!
Why has nobody mentioned this? People are assuming it is due to the 100% possibility that it is Harry over Neville, but it is only the best guess by the Unspeakables.
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Any thoughts??
I guess it is hard to buck Dumbledore’s reading on it (I think there can be no doubt). If you look at the series and try to move from the “overt” plot and details to the underlying story – JK has made it plain in many interviews that she is writing to a classic story/theme that has been used repeatedly in hero tales. Switching the main character at the very end just seems awfully unlikely.
O yeh, im not denying that it will be unlikely for the main character to be shifted, but I think there is more to the question mark.
xx
Oh you – stop teasing me and give me details! What do you think is behind that question mark?
I dont know lol. I wish I did…
Not long till the 7th book though is it =D
WHSmiths at midnight again… I didnt sleep until I had finished the last 1, from midnight until about 10 oclock at night.
The only thing I can really think of is that how did the unspeakables at the ministry get the required information, apart from the prophecy, so is the question mark there because it is simply the best answer they could have come up with.
BUT then again, Harry did pick up the prophecy off the shelf, and did anybody else carry it before it smashed, except Neville?
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O yeah, and Harry and co knocked over loads of shelfs, the death eaters could have just smashed it and listened to it… maybe that is just a bit of lack of continuity…
I think you correct in the most part of the facts but I do belive their relationship was in fact more deep that what you think. I say this in base in some interviews that JKR give and some dedutions of myself and of course some parts of the book…but I do belive they were a couple. That he was completly in love by her, because he had to be. He had to had a big crush. Just that justifiques everything he does for Harry and the change of side to. He change to the light for his regret. After all he was responsable for the death of the woman he most love. And for all this she have to love him to. But let´s wait for the book it´s the only way ew know!!
The second Snape killed Dumbledore, I felt that Severus was indeed innocent. Why would Dumbledore plead with Snape? It was HIS fault he was wandless…did DUmbledore lose his wand on purpose? Probably… if he lost his wand, it would make sense that Snape should kill him, otherwise Dumbledore could have wiped him out in one stroke – but not having a wand enabled Snape to kill him in a realistic way. DUmbledore’s pleading (“Please, Severus!”) must have only been a signal or code for “Now is the time to kill me, Severus.” and he did. The 7th book makes this clear… Snape was definetely the best character in all 7 books and it’s a shame what happened to him.
Wow! Talk about nailing it perfectly!
Did you read Jo Rowling’s mind? This is it, precisely. I love book 7 and I know that the movie is going to be simply awesome. Finally, Alan Rickman in the role of Snape gets to actually CRY…! Woooo-hoooo! I cried too, when Snape was killed, and the fact that the last thing he wanted to see was Lily Potter’s eyes…uugggh…it broke my heart.
Thanks Beverly – I can’t take credit for it all but I’m glad I was right about some things. I still have trouble liking Snape but I have a while to get used to the idea.
=)
I always thought that the Question mark was because Harry was one of the 2 people that the prophecy meant.
*shrug*
So, now taht we have all the books…who was right? *ME* I dunno, but I did pretty darn well with Snape!
But, alas, no Half-Blood Prince book, can’t get them all right, I suppose!
and about the prophecy:
It in fact, did tell the future, because it was a tool that made Voldemort act exactly as it said he would.
Thanks for listening!
i love harry potter
Me too John – and YES – you were right in many counts. Way more right than I was about Harry as DADA professor hehehe
Well whaddya know…I completely forgot about this website!